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Angela · Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 25

why can't you answer the question... can you at least email cuz things seem kinda strange here. Soam I not aloud to say anything to do with Quanita?? Is there others I should not mention so as to not offend? Please at least answer me in email. Who are we not aloud to discuss? very very tripy or maybe it is just me?? Help me out here. A, I got it at least tell me I am not tripping and I'll back off everyone sensitive spot I wouldnt want to get kicked off seeing how I like keeping in touch with people I used to worship with cuz that would be wierd! I dont understand and now it seems a little shysty!

tasha · Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 41

yeah whats up?? why are't people allowed to discuss certain things or people????
Can I get a e-mail too, b/c up until now, I didn't know only privalged people weren't allowed to be discussed!!

[ This Message was edited by: tasha on 2002-08-21 22:23 ]

Guest · Posted: Aug 21, 2002 11:01 pm Post subject:

Oh okay.. I got it now, the topic was moved to "just talking forum" We thought it was gone for good!! Thanks for not deleating what angela wanted to say!!

Guest · Posted: Aug 22, 2002 8:26 am Post subject:

come on! why don't you just QUIT gossiping and then you really wouldn't have to worry now would you? what pleasure are you getting putting people's business out? There is a GREAT distinction between the leaders and the FIRST FAMILY and LEADERS of CFCMI - they are the ones who LORD over everyone else. Geez, EVERYONE only tries to survive in that place, why don't you help them leave instead of pushing them further up the leadership's butt by telling everything about them! and even if you feel you HAVE to get it off your chest, use a nickname or something. Angela -get OVER a few things and deal with your issues about growing up in and now leaving a CULT! You can help many people that come here by sharing your "issues", but there is no need to name names. - that is just hateful.

tasha · Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 41

Why can't she use names?? Its always nice to know how you are speaking to anon... She puts her name up there so you can address things with her, I had a Anon, tell me I told lies about their so called friends, and I don't have a clue, because they left me without a name to confront!! She can say what she feels, and so can you, If she choses to not hide behind cfc or being ANON... It's her choice. Just as it is your choice to speak up as a voice without a name!! If she has Guts, she dosen't need anyone anymore conflicting her decisions!! IT's not hateful either, there was already too much of that over there.. IT'S being HONEST!!!... SOMETHING that people over at cfc aren't used to!!

[ This Message was edited by: TASHA on 2002-08-22 17:42 ]

Guest · Posted: Aug 22, 2002 7:00 pm Post subject:

Waaaah! give us a freekin' break.

Guest · Posted: Aug 22, 2002 9:15 pm Post subject:

was your name mentioned..??? Is that why you crying?? Are you Quanita??

Guest · Posted: Aug 23, 2002 4:57 am Post subject:

No, I'm not Quanita, or anyone else from Waukegan. I'm from Norfolk, thank you. Why don't you at least CONSIDER what has been said. What is up with you people that you hate other congregation members so much? They are no different from you - being used and manipulated by CFCMI leadership. Quit being a baby.

JPoyer · Joined: 09 Apr 2002 Posts: 471 Location: VA and NJ

I have to add my .02 as usual.
I dont hate the people who choose to stay. I've never said that. (Although they treat me like I have the plague, usually.)
I dont think that anyone has posted anything hateful to that affect.
Because I know that many of the people who choose to stay are intelligent people, I just dont understand WHY they choose to stay and be lied to and yelled at and treated as if they are less than the people they call Pastor and accept their personal business be shared with the entire congregation, when there are so many other places to worship with truthful, caring, ethical, sincere, encouraging Pastors who esteem the word of God instead of mock and use it to hide behind.
Can you respect a person like Pam or Debbie as a Godly example for you or your children? Why would you settle for that?
We know that the congregation is told NOT to speak to those who leave.
I dont understand why they dont use their own mind and do what they know is right - because they know that is not biblical and they obey ONLY because the pastors tell them not to speak to us.
I dont understand why they dont question what their tithes and specific offerrings are being used for. If there wasnt anything to hide, the leadership would make a yearly statement.
Why would you want to raise your family up in that? Don't you wonder why the Pastors and their families prosper, have unnecessary sized homes and vehicles and travel and flaunt their jewels and silk suits, when you're crying because you've got a 2nd mortgage, drive a heap, and can't heed their call to give more, more, more, more? Do you and your kids wear 2 yr old dresses and old dress shoes?
For me, it made a HUGE difference to hear the stories of why people who I respected and know are honest, sincere, loving Christians left.
Phil and Gennys well documented and thought out departure was very helpful to me, spiritually. Many of our stories are SO different, yet alike.
God gave us our own minds to make good decisions with for the family and children he gave us. We are responsible for that.
It's not a healthy place to be - no matter what it's called.
J

Laura J. · Joined: 07 Aug 2001 Posts: 550 Location: San Diego

Very , very good Joy, you took the words right out of mine and a lot of our mouths. Laura Jean

tasha · Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 41

Angela never said she had hate for Quanita, She said she didn't respect her. If you had read the previous posts, where Angela was saying how Quanita ACTED at the church school, then you might understand. Everyone is entitled to say what they feel, If you think they are so bad and hateful.. Then pray for them and try to encourage them!! Don't come on here trying to judge nobody!! Like you said you're not here in waukegan, we are,
So enless you walked in Angelas' shoes Try to leave that condeming attitude at the door of cfc!! We are through with it here!!
If something on here bothers you so much, it is your choice to stay and read...And then speak your peace, yet not leave a name!!

[ This Message was edited by: tasha on 2002-08-23 13:05 ]

Angela · Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 25

Angela · Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 25

oh yeah I said something about Quanita. I thought It was tooken off I just wanted to know why. It wasnt, everything is cool. I'm not gonna obsess over her and continue this thing on her unless she feels the need to say something to me or question me. Anon you wanna say something about using names you sure as hell gotta alot of fussing to do all over this forum. Must of pinched a nerve I guess.That's funny seeing how I said "Quanita" did not have my respect. Big deal!!Like I said before I sure as hell wont get into to detalis with you!! I wanna say alot but it's obviously not worth it. You rather struggle at CFC and listen to thier lives simply surviving off that then dare hear me say I have no respect for 1 person at CFC. Yup makes sense to me I'm going to the Lake of Fire allright!!

* oh yeah to Jpoyer and Laura I didnt know about you two before cuz I never met you but you seem real cool!!!

[ This Message was edited by: Angela on 2002-08-24 14:45 ]

JPoyer · Joined: 09 Apr 2002 Posts: 471 Location: VA and NJ

Hey thanks Angela

I wish I had met ya though.

sailor · Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 1595

I think the reason why we avoid using other people's names other than the leadership is simply because we realize they are victims, just like we are...only they are still there. I know most of the victims would not want their business on the street.

Even with the leaders, I focus on the actions more than anything else. Their actions are what brought this site into existence.